|Overall Rating||Loved it!|
|Riding Level||Advanced - Expert|
|Fits Boot size (US)||8-10|
|Manufactured in||Dubai by SWS|
|Camber Profile||Continuous Rocker|
|Stance||Setback over 20mm|
|Approx. Weight||Feels Normal|
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Jones Mind Expander 2019 - 2018 Review by The Good Ride
The Jones Mind Expander is a great example of a super fast turning, pure powder ride and if you can swing it, this would be a great compliment to a surfy freeride quiver. It’s a board I own and love for riding in the trees but it’s also very competent in lot’s of other places on the mountain. It’s even not bad when the powder is gone.
The 2019 Jones Mind Expander has a little carbon fiber strip throughout the center of the board giving it a little more long-term resiliency and it’s got an updated core but still has a very similar ride to the 2018 model. Also, they added a 146 and 162 so it can cover a wider spectrum of rider sizes. Here is a detailed review and comparison between the Jones Mind Expander, Rome Powder Division 157 and the Rossignol Sushi.
Update Fall 2018– The 2019 production model is just as stiff (maybe a touch stiffer) as the 2018 model so disregard what we talked about regarding the softness of the demo model we tried.
Size: 154 (2017 & 2018) and 158 (2019)
Conditions: Everything from a little powder and groomers to a few light fluffy powder days and a few thick wet powder days.
Riders: James (Size 9, 5’10” 180-190lbs),Peter (Size 8, 5’11” 185lbs), Grant (Size 11 6’ 160lbs)
Boots: Adidas Tactical ADV
Insoles: Sandsole Custom Insoles, Footprint Insole Technology Gameghangers Low Profile
Bindings: Union Atlas, Union Strata, Union Falcor, Union Superpro, Burton Genesis X
Set Up: 22.5” a little wide or narrow of reference stance to set all the way back 15 front -3 back. 22″ wide 21 front 0 back. 22″ wide 24 front 6 back and set almost all the way back.
Approximate Weight: Feels like it is on the light side of medium.
Flex: As I talked about in depth in the vid, the 2019 Jones Mind Expander demo board I had in a 154 seemed to have a softer flex but the production model was actually the same or a touch stiffer/more poppy than the 2018.
Buttering: Super easy to butter either way. Even my stiffer 2018 model is super easy to butter.
Sizing: The 154 feels like almost the perfect tree cheetah and is one of the fastest turning boards I’ve come across but it feels a little small in deep open terrain. The 158 definitely feels bigger and maybe a bit big for my specs but I think I like the incredibly easy glide this can generate and how easy it keeps its speed. Both are unsinkable but the 158 doesn’t want to stop moving which is really key on long traverses or long flat run outs to get back to a chair. I think a 156 would be just right for me but the 158 is the better all around ride for me. In a perfect world I would keep both but probably going to just keep the 158.
On Snow Feel: It’s kind of loose and atypical compared to most Jones boards with their hybrid camber tech. There is a little flat between the feet but it still feels like it can auto spin a bit when in the firm snow that you can often see when getting off a chair with lots of wind that blows away the powder. In comparison to continuous rocker it feels stable but when comparing it to the hybrid camber boards in the rest of the Jones line it feels a bit lose. Overall the Jones Mind Expander has a very playful easy riding feel to it that really can slash things up. Incredibly easy to skid a turn.
Edge Hold: Despite the massive rocker the Jones Mind Expander has really good edge hold that’s great for those hard snow routes that are often necessary to get to the deep stuff. Mountains have wind and wind can blow away all the powder on the peaks so often times you find yourself riding hundreds of yards of ice before powder.
Turn Initiation: The 154, for my specs, is super quick. Quicker than quick. It’s one of the most nimble tree boards I’ve ever ridden. The 158 is really fast too but not quite as quick as the 154.
Turning Experience: So the Jones Mind Expander can make some super fun turns on groomers but as you get into more committed turns or wider radius turns it’s a little less interesting. If you just want something to have fun making quick turns, slash things and not really get too aggressive on the carving side this does great and it’s a real added bonus for a powder board. I can see why Jones marked this as not just a powder board because it’s not bad at all on groomers. When turning in powder, it really shines with quicker slashy turns but wider turns are better than they are on groomers. For me (James Biesty), the 154 was best for making quick turns through trees and the 158, although great in trees too, was more fun for floating through semi-open to wide open runs.
Carving: Not that interesting but way more doable than you would think for this kind of ride. Unlike many flat to rocker or pure powder boards it can for sure carve but it pales in comparison to the feeling you get out of the Hovercraft or the Flagship or many other boards that have some camber going on when it comes to giving you some resistance into the turn and then some spring out of it. The Jones Mind Expander hurries you out of the carve but at least it holds an edge really well.
Speed: The Jones Mind Expander isn’t going to blow minds and it’s super far from being something like the Flagship but in powder, you can point it without it being super sketchy. The one thing though is the base is super fast. It’s one of the fastest bases I’ve tried in this price range and it glides incredibly well. The 158 really keeps its speed well and I often had to check my speed on cat tracks that I would normally have to straight line to get through. It builds momentum fast.
Uneven Terrain: Man I could weave in and out of moguls all day with this board. It’s so easy to navigate bumps. This is where I like the Mind Expander over the Storm Chaser because of how it doesn’t buck around as much when there are bumps below the powder. I think it’s the extra tail length that helps it keep its line better where the Storm chaser can sometimes bounce you right out of your line.
Powder: Yeah this is one of the floatiest rides I’ve ever been on. It’s not a short fatty like the Storm Chaser so there isn’t a lot of volume for the board’s size but it’s still wider than most standard all mountain 154’s, has more tail and has that same surf rocker that allows this board to float incredibly easy. I could even lean forward in 2′ of powder and I didn’t go cartwheeling. When set all the way back it’s pretty unreal at how easy it is. The 158 takes it up another level and although it picks up speed almost too fast it made the 1-1.5 feet of powder I’ve had so far feel like there isn’t any. When setting the 158 all the way back at 22.75″ the difference between nose and tail is about 10.5″ and the true set back on board is just about 5.25″ which is very far back. Then you combine the taper in the tail and the big ass nose you have some real float going on. Lots of powder boards have these specs but the real differentiator for the Jones Mind Expander is the super-rocker in the nose that rises up significantly higher than most boards. That and the lifted sides make this one of the easiest floating boards I’ve ever tried.
Switch: Very doable but not ideal. You can land switch and it’s better than a lot of super directional powder boards.
Jumps: There is a good bit of pop and, unlike the Storm Chaser, there is a little more tail for landings with the Jones Mind Expander.
Jibbing: I guess you could if you wanted to.
Pipe: I like the edge hold enough and I did take it into the pipe. It was super forgiving and fun.
So to sum it all up, the Jones Mind Expander is the choice for people that love to make super quick turns in the deep deep and want some of the easiest float out there at the time I write this. The more I compare the 154 and 158 to other boards the more this ride impresses me.
Jones Mind Expander Past Reviews
2018 Jones Mind Expander Review
Conditions: Spring Groomers and practically perfect light fluffy Mt. Bachelor Powder.
Riders: James (Size 9, 5’10” 185-195lbs), Peter (Size 8, 5’11” 185lbs)
Boots: Adidas Tactical ADV, Adidas Acerra,
Insoles: Footprint Insole Technology Gamechangers, Footprint Insole Technology Gameghangers Low Profile
Bindings: Union Atlas, Union Superpro with team ankle straps (similar to the contact but with taller straps), Burton Genesis
Set Up: 22.5” Centered 15 front -16back
After getting the Storm Chaser in some deep, thick Sierra snow, this similar rocker and directional float changed my perceptions of how a board can float in powder. The Mind Expander, in my humble opinion, takes it a step further than the Storm Chaser in the deep stuff. This floats like a much bigger board and turns like a board it’s size or even smaller. Even though I’d much rather ride the Hovercraft on most groomer days this wasn’t that bad at all and I will say I wish the Hovercraft turned as quickly as the Mind Expander.
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I effing love this board! To make sure we are all on the same page, I have 5 setups all with their own beauty and function. This board literally changed the way I charge the mountain and has given me huge amounts of confidence. I’m 6ft and 160 lbs and before
The beautiful 150 mind expander I’m riding now I was on a 167 arbor A frame. I’m not even kidding when I say it changed my whole riding style for the better. I typically hit the mountain on deep days with riders more experienced in backcountry than I am and was always falling sort. (Legs tired, digging out of holes, and avoiding thick trees.)(this also frustrated me to no end) I shit you not, I am now the leader of the pack because this board allows me to do everything I know I’m capable of. This board changed the rider I am over night, and I couldn’t be helper with it.
Just got back from Fernie, BC where I had two chances to try out the mind expander. The first was cat skiing with Fernie Wilderness Adventures. I can't recommend these guys enough. It was truly a once in a lifetime experience that I hope happens more than once in my lifetime. It was the maiden voyage and it performed even better than advertised. I've never had that much fun on a board. The next day there was 13 inches of snow at the top of Fernie alpine resort but it rained on the bottom of half. The first few runs were in amazing snow but it got tracked up quickly. I knew at the end of the day the conditions on the bottom half of the mountain would be terrible. I was afraid it would be nothing but ice but I got lucky with slush instead. I was worn out and not looking forward to the ride down. The mind expander was stable, smooth, and held and edge the whole way. Highly recommend this board. I'm an average at best rider and I felt like Jeremy Jones himself on this board.
Very surfy. Fun
I bugged the hell out of James about this board with questions, which he was very kind to answer. I demoed the board first at Mammoth during a 1-2 feet dump.
I purchased the 158 after the demo, because I felt that size for my weight and riding style fit best. I need a power board that is unsinkable in deep snow, fast base to help in cat tracks and long traverses, and will not stall out if the run is not that steep. Also I do a lot of cat skiing. I needed to ability to ride great in wide open bowls and ride trees. It rides GREAT in trees.
So in my opinion its definitely surfy and fun, but not a all mountain powder focused board. Carving on groomers is just ok if the snow is soft. I really won't ride this board unless there is a foot or more of powder. To me its a quiver board for deep pow.
There are better options for a all resort powder focused stick.
Mind Expander 154
I got the 2019 version this year and this last weekend I got to test this boards ability on about 14” of fresh and soft pow. I had the board mounted on the centered stance and this was great on days when the pow didn’t exceed 6”. I set my bindings all the way back on this reasonably deep day cause I felt that the board wasn’t getting as much float as I thought it could and had a couple tomahawks after dropping off some drops into pillows. Once I set the bindings all the way back the Mind Expander became a new board, it absolutely ripped and floated through the deep stuff without effort and rear leg fatigue. It’s an absolute tree ninja and opens up lines that sometimes are too tight on another board. Keep this board waxed and you’ll have no problems traversing or powering through cat tracks. I’d love to try the 158 but I would tell anyone worried about the 154 being too small that it isn’t. All in all I recommend this board if you want a VERY nimble tree slaying, high floating, loose and surfy pow board. It also lays down a very tight trench on the groomers and is fun long after the pow is tracked out. If I had any negatives on this board it would be that it doesn’t like chunder too much, by this I mean the dense, semi-mogul type stuff and it tends to want to buck around a bit. It plows through tracked out powder like a champ, but the harder day old type stuff not so much.