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Burton Deep Thinker 2018-2023 Snowboard Review

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Riding Style Freeride
Riding Level Advanced - Expert
Fits Boot size (US) 8-10, 10-12
Manufactured in China
Shape Tapered Directional
Camber Profile Directional Camber
Stance Setback over 20mm
Approx. Weight Feels Normal
Split No
Powder Good
Base Glide Good
Carving Good
Speed Good
Uneven Terrain Good
Switch Good
Jumps Excellent
Jibbing Good
Pipe Good
On Snow Feel

Semi-Locked In

Turn Initiation

Fast

Skidded Turns

Semi-Hard

Flex

Medium/Soft

Buttering

Semi-Easy

Edge Hold

Medium Snow

Burton Deep Thinker 2023 - 2018 Review by The Good Ride

Turn Ons/Swipe Right: Super Poppy, Very Easy to Butter. Mountain Freestyle flex in a Freeride shape.
Turn Offs/Swipe Left: Edge Hold is behind most peers. Too soft if you want a traditional freeride flex.

Summary

The Burton Deep Thinker doesn’t have great edge hold but does have incredible pop, easy butterability and a really fun tapered directional freeride shape.

Ethics Statement: We don’t get paid by the manufacturer to write these reviews and this is our unfiltered opinion. We do make money from the “Where To Buy” links, but this is our best attempt at an honest and objective review from an average riders’ perspective.

Burton Deep Thinker 2023 Snowboard Review- How it rides and who it is for

Burton Deep Thinker Review

How This Review Happened:

Borrowed this for an extended demo and sent it back. we bought it.  Precious Good Ride dollars were spent to buy this and review it.
Size: 157
Days: 5
Conditions: Good Spring Conditions that felt like mid-winter, some inconsistent powder, clean soft perfect spring groomers, and an early morning slackountry time with Drift Boards
Riders:
 James (Size 9, 5’10” 185-190lbs)
Boots: Burton Kendo, Burton Photon Step On Wide
Insoles: F.I.T. Gamechangers
Bindings: Union Atlas, Clew Bindings, Burton Cartel X, Burton Step On
Jacket: Burton AK Gore-Tex Pro 3L Tusk Jacket, Jones Peak Bagger Jacket.
Pant: Burton AK Gore-Tex Pro 3L Hover Pant,
Helmet: Smith Maze
Goggle: Smith 4D Mag
Gloves: Burton AK Guide Glove, Burton AK Clutch Mitt, Burton AK Clutch Glove, Burton AK Tech Leather Glove, Burton AK Tech Glove, CG Habitats Glove, CG Habitats Work Glove, Drop Tahoma Mitt, Drop Cascade Glove, Drop Web Glove,

Similar Boards (but not the same): Yes Pick Your LineSeason Nexus, Burton Cartographer, Burton Instigator, Never Summer Hammer

Set-Up: 21.5” Wide. Sance Angles +18/-3, +18/-9. Close to Reference and Set all the way back.

How It Was Tested

I rode the Burton Deep Thinker often on the same day against the Custom and Burton Territory Manager.

Approximate Weight

The Burton Deep Thinker felt more on the light side of normal. (We don’t put in the exact weight because with wood cores there is no consistency in a boards weight)

Sizing

Burton Deep Thinker Sizing

 

 

 

 

 

The Burton Deep Thinker worked pretty good for my size 9 boots but I could have used the 160 for my 190lbs.

Here are some ideal US boot sizes for the Burton Deep Thinkers. You can of course go bigger or smaller but these work best for not turning the board slower than it should be and not having the dreaded Toe & Heel Drag.
154: 8-9
157: 8.5-9.5
160: 9-10
157w: 10-11
160w: 10.5-11.5
163w: 11-12

Shape/Camber/On Snow Feel/Ability Level

Burton Deep Thinker Shape

 

 

 

The Burton Deep Thinker has a decent amount of taper at 8mm. It doesn’t seem like it has the balanced freeride geometry sidecut to reduce the taper feel but it still doesn’t need a lot of back foot weight.

Burton Deep Thinker Camber

 

 

 

 

The camber profile of the Burton Deep Thinker has a mellow bit of early rise before the nose but it feels pretty locked in. Even though there is a softer flex it doesn’t do that much to lessen the consequences if you get off your game and skid your turns a lot. This is for very accomplished intermediates and up.

Flex Personality

The Burton Deep Thinker has a very soft flex for being tapered and directional. It feels medium/soft and what is even more interesting is it feels like you can bend this in half and it won’t snap. There is a very rubbery feel here but it doesn’t lack pop at all. It was probably the poppiest board I tried this year.

Speed

You don’t get the Burton Deep Thinker to bomb. It has a sidecut that doesn’t fight you on a straight line but it doesn’t have the dampness you want at higher speeds. The base glide is good but nothing exceptional. I’ve found that most Burton boards need Burton wax and it often needs to be waxed a few times in order to get that better than average glide.

Edge Hold

I wish the Burton Deep Thinker and most directional camber Burton boards had a little more grip in harder snow. I don’t want magnatraction or anything but just a little more grip when I hit a hard patch. It lets go a little easier than other boards.

Turning Experience/Carving

So the Burton Deep Thinker is a little too soft for people that like a really hard carve but there is still a really good spring out of the turn. The overall turning experience is pretty balanced. It initiates a turn really fast if sized right but when you really lay it on to edge it slows down a little bit. That isn’t good or bad. It is just what it is. You can circle carve ok but it doesn’t excel there. It is more of an across the groomer to slightly down the line type of carve.

Powder

There is pretty good directional float with the Burton Deep Thinker. You can get -3.625” back from center of board with a 23” stance width. That is a little wide for most who will ride the 157 but if you don’t get EST bindings you can slide the front back more to give you similar set back on board with a narrower stance width. Then you have about 8mm of taper along with a bigger nose than tail and early rise before it. I felt it about what you would expect for a shape like this.

Switch/Pipe/Jumps

The Burton Deep Thinker is very doable in the park. This soft flex works way better than you would think for jibbing, its good in the pipe if it isn’t too hard and rides switch very well for a taperd board. Where this really shines is how hard it springs off a jump and how well it tracks in and out of the jump.

Conclusion

So overall, the Burton Deep Thinker is a unique board. It was really fun to get on this again and experience this softer and more playful flex. It might not be for those that want a traditional Freeride board but I think many will appreciate such a buttery and poppy flex in a tapered directional board that can also float well in powder.

 
Burton Deep Thinker Past Reviews

2020 Burton Deep Thinker Review

The Burton Deep Thinker is all about deep thoughts…hopefully by Jack Handy on the chair and aggressive actions on snow. To us, it felt like a stiffer more aggressive less tapered version of the Flight Attendant.  So if you are an aggressive rider that likes to go big, mainly rides in good conditions, you might be more into the Deep Thinker. However, if you are exceptionally average like us, then you might prefer the Burton Flight Attendant’s better all-conditions performance and slightly more forgiving flex.

Ethics Statement: We don’t get paid by the manufacturer to write these reviews.  We do make money from the “Where To Buy” links, but this is our best attempt at an honest and objective review from an average riders’ perspective.

Size: 157
Days: 1 day on the 2020 and 1 day on the 2018
Conditions: Pretty good for us but pretty thick for Utah powder. Probably about 1-2 feet and coming past our knees in some places. There were still some messy but super soft groomed runs though too.
Riders: James (Size 9, 5’10” 185-195lbs), Peter (Size 8, 5’11” 185lbs)
Boots: Adidas Tactical ADV
Bindings: Burton Malavita EST

Similar Boards (but not the same) That We Compared/Referenced This To:
Burton Leader Board, Burton Flight Attendant, Gnu Mullair, Jones Flagship, Never Summer West Bound,

Set-Up: 22” Wide. 21 front -6 back. Close to Reference and Set all the way back.  22” Wide. 15 front -15 back.  Centered.

Approximate Weight: Feels normal to bordering on the light side of normal.

Sizing: The 157 felt just right for our weight and especially our boot size. The 154-160 fit size 8-10’s pretty well and the 157w-163w do really well for 10-12’s. With both regular and wide rides in this line, the bigger size fit’s better as your boot gets bigger. It can handle a decent amount of weight as well and it’s good to see Burton bump up the ability to handle a girthy lad on top.

Flex/Buttering: Not very buttery and pretty stiff/snappy. If you are a strong rider this will work well for you but if you aren’t you might not get as much out of this compared to some other boards with a little softer flex.

On Snow Feel/Ability Level/Skidded Turns: Not for those that don’t know how to turn. It’s more for those expert riders but advanced riders can handle it too but if you get off your game it can catch an edge pretty easy. It’s pretty close to a full-on old-school camber ride and doesn’t skid turns easy. It has a very aggressive pretty directional gunny type of ride that appeals to those that just don’t fuck around when the head up to the mountain.

Edge Hold: Pretty standard for Burton. It’s good in comparison to most of their line but when we compare it to many similar boards out there the edge hold is a little behind most in harder snow. It can still hang in harder snow but it has this quick cut off point grip wise when the snow gets harder that can surprise you and quickly let go.

Turn Initiation: Fast edge to edge. This can slalom through a tree line super easy. Once you get it on edge the Burton Deep Thinker isn’t as fast completing a turn as starting one but overall it’s pretty quick.

Turning Experience/Carving: If you have the strength the Deep Thinker can really power through a hard turn but it likes a strong rider to perform.

Powder: We had some thick Utah powder…well for people from Utah but fun powder for us. Both of us didn’t really feel like it was floating as well as the Flight Attendant or many other freeride boards we tried in the deeper stuff. If you ride steeper terrain and are used to full camber boards the early rise in the nose will feel much easier but compared to many hybrid shapes this is a little behind the rest. Our back legs worked harder on this ride. We weren’t able to put this on the table and geek hard on the non-published specs but it doesn’t seem as far back on board. There could be other factors too like, less of a nose and maybe a touch more effective edge for its size but we aren’t certain that’s what makes it more work because often specs lie. All we can say is it took more work than the Jones Flagship that we rode on the same day. It was easier floating than the Leader Board though.

Speed: Bombs! It’s not quite the Leader Board that we switched back and forth on but it’s up there with the One Hitter and many other rides out there in terms of being super damp.

Uneven Terrain: In the soft forgiving conditions we had in Utah, the Burton Deep Thinker was totally fine. However, in the wet, thick uneven snow, we had at Bachelor the first time it really got cranky on us compared to many other boards we rode that day at the demo.

Switch: Really good for a tapered directional ride and Burton does a good job allowing boards like this to ride switch better than they should.

Jumps: It’s a little narrow and quick turny but it can go powerfully big if you have the strength and insurance policy to back it.

Jibbing: nah….

Pipe: Sure…

So all in all the Burton Deep Thinker might not be for everyone but for those that have the technical knowledge or just plain strength to make this board perform, could have a time.

 

Burton Deep Thinker 2018 Review

The Burton Deep Thinker to us felt like a stiffer more aggressive less tapered version of the Flight Attendant.  We all loved its looks and specs so we had high hopes for this ride but it really didn’t shine in the conditions we rode it.  We all prefer the Flight Attendant or the Custom Kilroy much better.

Nothing really changed from the 2018-2019 Burton Deep Thinker but the review has been updated to reflect our take on it compared to what’s out in 2019.

Ethics Statement: We don’t get paid by the manufacturer to write these reviews. We do make money from the “Where To Buy” links, but this is our best attempt at an honest and objective review from an average riders’ perspective.

Size: 157
Days:  1
Conditions:  Pretty wet but way better than we thought it would be.
Riders: James (Size 9, 5’10” 185-195lbs), Jimbo (Size 11, 5’11” 160lbs), Peter (Size 8, 5’11” 185lbs), Tim
Boots: Burton Almighty, Adidas Tactical ADV
Bindings: Burton Genesis

Some Recommended Boots: Adidas Tactical ADV, Burton SLXBurton Imperial, Burton Ion and maybe the Burton Step On Ion or Photon
Recommended Bindings: Burton Genesis X, Burton Cartel, Union Force, Union Atlas, Union Strata

Approximate Weight: Felt pretty normal-ish.  Here’s the thing, most snowboards don’t vary too much when it comes to weight and on top of that they aren’t consistent in weight from board to board.

Flex/Buttering:  It feels stiff and doesn’t like to fuck about.  It’s not an easy board to butter. .

Sizing: The 158 Deep Thinker felt like the right size for Peter and me with size 8.5 and 9.  Jimbo would be much better off with the 157w and Tim the 163w their 11 something boots, size and weight.  All the regular size boards feel like 10 and under would be best.  Maybe 10.5 with a reduced footprint but anyone 11 and up it’s all about the wides.

On Snow Feel: Pretty locked in, aggressive and a straight liner. The Burton Deep Thinker seemed like it would have a lot of the magic from the Flight Attendant that we have loved for many years but it didn’t feel that way for us.  We felt like this board becomes stiff and unfriendly in uneven soft snow but shines in the good high-speed snow.  It’s like many of the Family Tree directional camber rides we tried when it comes to feeling semi-locked in though and it’s the kind of board that one foot’s off the chair and tracks down a long cat track well.

Edge Hold: Felt pretty good but we didn’t really get to test it in hard snow.  We only had a few patches. Generally, our experience with Directional Camber boards like this from Burton (we rode a lot too) is they will do pretty well until it starts getting medium hard and by the time it’s hard, the edge is completely letting go.

Turn Initiation: Very quick edge to edge and itgetss you there almost exactly when you want it.  It’s very quick rolling from edge to edge but once you are there it doesn’t want to keep bank hard right or left at the speed it started.

Turning Experience: Nothing really lit us up with the Burton Deep Thinker when it came to turning.  It was good but not really what we love when it comes to this directional camber profile and tapered directional shape.  It’s not that washy off the tail and it’s got less taper than the Burton Flight Attendant. I think with a little time on some good groomers we might get up enough speed to make this board shine on a series of long drawn out S-Turns but have yet to do so. A good friend of The Good Ride owns one of these and said something to this extent.

Carving: The Burton Deep Thinker is not a real circle carver but it can for sure carve hard.  It really likes a wider radius carve and it’s got lots of camber off the back foot to spring out of the carve with.  It just takes a lot of strength to make it happen.

Skidded Turns: The Burton Deep Thinker can catch on the tail like a camber board but not on the flat to the rockered nose. Overall it’s not for intermediate riders or anyone that can’t stay on their game when turning.

Speed: The Burton Deep Thinker is fast and bombs.  It wants to straight line and make long narrow S-Turns at high speed. If you want more from the Flight Attendant then this might work.

Uneven Terrain: Really uncomfortable in the messy snow even with really shock absorbent Burton Genesis bindings.

Powder: So we didn’t get powder but based on its specs it seems like it would perform very close to the Burton Flight Attendant which is a great power board.

Buttering: Nah…pretty stiff for most of us except the butter strong Jimbo.

Switch: It’s ok but better to ride the Free Thinker for that. Still, it’s better than you would think for a tapered directional board and

Jibbing: nope…..not a good idea.

Pipe: We didn’t ride pipe that day but it seems like it wouldn’t be bad for those that like to go big in a directional way.

Jumps: It’s got pop but it requires a strong rider to make it do so.  If you aren’t feeling strong it can feel a bit planky and a bit dead but if you put a lot into the Burton Deep Thinker it can give a lot back.

Overall we had high hopes with the Burton Deep Thinker and really wanted to like it. However, in the conditions we rode it there just wasn’t a lot of love compared to the other boards from Burton we rode that day.  We think some could really like this but most would probably be happier with the Flight Attendant.

 
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