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Burton Deep Thinker 2018-2020 Snowboard Review

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Overall Rating Pretty Good
Riding Style Freeride
Riding Level Advanced - Expert
Fits Boot size (US) 8-10
Manufactured in China
Shape Tapered Directional
Camber Profile Directional Camber
Stance Setback over 20mm
Approx. Weight Feels Normal
Powder Good
Turning Experience Great
Carving Great
Speed Great
Uneven Terrain Average
Switch Good
Jumps Great
Jibbing Poor
Pipe Good
On Snow Feel

Semi-Locked In

Turn Initiation

Fast

Skidded Turns

Semi-Hard

Flex

Medium/Stiff

Buttering

Hard

Edge Hold

Medium Snow

Burton Deep Thinker 2020 - 2018 Review by The Good Ride

The Burton Deep Thinker is all about deep thoughts…hopefully by Jack Handy on the chair and aggressive actions on snow. To us, it felt like a stiffer more aggressive less tapered version of the Flight Attendant.  So if you are an aggressive rider that likes to go big, mainly rides in good conditions, you might be more into the Deep Thinker. However, if you are exceptionally average like us, then you might prefer the Burton Flight Attendant’s better all-conditions performance and slightly more forgiving flex. S

Ethics Statement: We don’t get paid by the manufacturer to write these reviews.  We do make money from the “Where To Buy” links, but this is our best attempt at an honest and objective review from an average riders’ perspective.

Size: 157
Days: 1 day on the 2020 and 1 day on the 2018
Conditions: Pretty good for us but pretty thick for Utah powder. Probably about 1-2 feet and coming past our knees in some places. There were still some messy but super soft groomed runs though too.
Riders: James (Size 9, 5’10” 185-195lbs), Peter (Size 8, 5’11” 185lbs)
Boots: Adidas Tactical ADV
Bindings: Burton Malavita EST

Similar Boards (but not the same) That We Compared/Referenced This To:
Burton Leader Board, Burton Flight Attendant, Gnu Mullair, Jones Flagship, Never Summer West Bound,

Set-Up: 22” Wide. 21 front -6 back. Close to Reference and Set all the way back.  22” Wide. 15 front -15 back.  Centered.

Approximate Weight: Feels normal to bordering on the light side of normal.

Sizing: The 157 felt just right for our weight and especially our boot size. The 154-160 fit size 8-10’s pretty well and the 157w-163w do really well for 10-12’s. With both regular and wide rides in this line, the bigger size fit’s better as your boot gets bigger. It can handle a decent amount of weight as well and it’s good to see Burton bump up the ability to handle a girthy lad on top.

Flex/Buttering: Not very buttery and pretty stiff/snappy. If you are a strong rider this will work well for you but if you aren’t you might not get as much out of this compared to some other boards with a little softer flex.

On Snow Feel/Ability Level/Skidded Turns: Not for those that don’t know how to turn. It’s more for those expert riders but advanced riders can handle it too but if you get off your game it can catch an edge pretty easy. It’s pretty close to a full-on old-school camber ride and doesn’t skid turns easy. It has a very aggressive pretty directional gunny type of ride that appeals to those that just don’t fuck around when the head up to the mountain.

Edge Hold: Pretty standard for Burton. It’s good in comparison to most of their line but when we compare it to many similar boards out there the edge hold is a little behind most in harder snow. It can still hang in harder snow but it has this quick cut off point grip wise when the snow gets harder that can surprise you and quickly let go.

Turn Initiation: Fast edge to edge. This can slalom through a tree line super easy. Once you get it on edge the Burton Deep Thinker isn’t as fast completing a turn as starting one but overall it’s pretty quick.

Turning Experience/Carving: If you have the strength the Deep Thinker can really power through a hard turn but it likes a strong rider to perform.

Powder: We had some thick Utah powder…well for people from Utah but fun powder for us. Both of us didn’t really feel like it was floating as well as the Flight Attendant or many other freeride boards we tried in the deeper stuff. If you ride steeper terrain and are used to full camber boards the early rise in the nose will feel much easier but compared to many hybrid shapes this is a little behind the rest. Our back legs worked harder on this ride. We weren’t able to put this on the table and geek hard on the non-published specs but it doesn’t seem as far back on board. There could be other factors too like, less of a nose and maybe a touch more effective edge for its size but we aren’t certain that’s what makes it more work because often specs lie. All we can say is it took more work than the Jones Flagship that we rode on the same day. It was easier floating than the Leader Board though.

Speed: Bombs! It’s not quite the Leader Board that we switched back and forth on but it’s up there with the One Hitter and many other rides out there in terms of being super damp.

Uneven Terrain: In the soft forgiving conditions we had in Utah, the Burton Deep Thinker was totally fine. However, in the wet, thick uneven snow, we had at Bachelor the first time it really got cranky on us compared to many other boards we rode that day at the demo.

Switch: Really good for a tapered directional ride and Burton does a good job allowing boards like this to ride switch better than they should.

Jumps: It’s a little narrow and quick turny but it can go powerfully big if you have the strength and insurance policy to back it.

Jibbing: nah….

Pipe: Sure…

So all in all the Burton Deep Thinker might not be for everyone but for those that have the technical knowledge or just plain strength to make this board perform, could have a time.

 
Burton Deep Thinker Past Reviews

What we said in 2018: 

The Burton Deep Thinker to us felt like a stiffer more aggressive less tapered version of the Flight Attendant.  We all loved its looks and specs so we had high hopes for this ride but it really didn’t shine in the conditions we rode it.  We all prefer the Flight Attendant or the Custom Kilroy much better.

Nothing really changed from the 2018-2019 Burton Deep Thinker but the review has been updated to reflect our take on it compared to what’s out in 2019.

Ethics Statement: We don’t get paid by the manufacturer to write these reviews. We do make money from the “Where To Buy” links, but this is our best attempt at an honest and objective review from an average riders’ perspective.

 

Size: 157
Days:  1
Conditions:  Pretty wet but way better than we thought it would be.
Riders: James (Size 9, 5’10” 185-195lbs), Jimbo (Size 11, 5’11” 160lbs), Peter (Size 8, 5’11” 185lbs), Tim
Boots: Burton Almighty, Adidas Tactical ADV
Bindings: Burton Genesis

Some Recommended Boots: Adidas Tactical ADV, Burton SLXBurton Imperial, Burton Ion and maybe the Burton Step On Ion or Photon
Recommended Bindings: Burton Genesis X, Burton Cartel, Union Force, Union Atlas, Union Strata

Approximate Weight: Felt pretty normal-ish.  Here’s the thing, most snowboards don’t vary too much when it comes to weight and on top of that they aren’t consistent in weight from board to board.

Flex/Buttering:  It feels stiff and doesn’t like to fuck about.  It’s not an easy board to butter. .

Sizing: The 158 Deep Thinker felt like the right size for Peter and me with size 8.5 and 9.  Jimbo would be much better off with the 157w and Tim the 163w their 11 something boots, size and weight.  All the regular size boards feel like 10 and under would be best.  Maybe 10.5 with a reduced footprint but anyone 11 and up it’s all about the wides.

On Snow Feel: Pretty locked in, aggressive and a straight liner. The Burton Deep Thinker seemed like it would have a lot of the magic from the Flight Attendant that we have loved for many years but it didn’t feel that way for us.  We felt like this board becomes stiff and unfriendly in uneven soft snow but shines in the good high-speed snow.  It’s like many of the Family Tree directional camber rides we tried when it comes to feeling semi-locked in though and it’s the kind of board that one foot’s off the chair and tracks down a long cat track well.

Edge Hold: Felt pretty good but we didn’t really get to test it in hard snow.  We only had a few patches. Generally, our experience with Directional Camber boards like this from Burton (we rode a lot too) is they will do pretty well until it starts getting medium hard and by the time it’s hard, the edge is completely letting go.

Turn Initiation: Very quick edge to edge and itgetss you there almost exactly when you want it.  It’s very quick rolling from edge to edge but once you are there it doesn’t want to keep bank hard right or left at the speed it started.

Turning Experience: Nothing really lit us up with the Burton Deep Thinker when it came to turning.  It was good but not really what we love when it comes to this directional camber profile and tapered directional shape.  It’s not that washy off the tail and it’s got less taper than the Burton Flight Attendant. I think with a little time on some good groomers we might get up enough speed to make this board shine on a series of long drawn out S-Turns but have yet to do so. A good friend of The Good Ride owns one of these and said something to this extent.

Carving: The Burton Deep Thinker is not a real circle carver but it can for sure carve hard.  It really likes a wider radius carve and it’s got lots of camber off the back foot to spring out of the carve with.  It just takes a lot of strength to make it happen.

Skidded Turns: The Burton Deep Thinker can catch on the tail like a camber board but not on the flat to the rockered nose. Overall it’s not for intermediate riders or anyone that can’t stay on their game when turning.

Speed: The Burton Deep Thinker is fast and bombs.  It wants to straight line and make long narrow S-Turns at high speed. If you want more from the Flight Attendant then this might work.

Uneven Terrain: Really uncomfortable in the messy snow even with really shock absorbent Burton Genesis bindings.

Powder: So we didn’t get powder but based on its specs it seems like it would perform very close to the Burton Flight Attendant which is a great power board.

Buttering: Nah…pretty stiff for most of us except the butter strong Jimbo.

Switch: It’s ok but better to ride the Free Thinker for that. Still, it’s better than you would think for a tapered directional board and

Jibbing: nope…..not a good idea.

Pipe: We didn’t ride pipe that day but it seems like it wouldn’t be bad for those that like to go big in a directional way.

Jumps: It’s got pop but it requires a strong rider to make it do so.  If you aren’t feeling strong it can feel a bit planky and a bit dead but if you put a lot into the Burton Deep Thinker it can give a lot back.

Overall we had high hopes with the Burton Deep Thinker and really wanted to like it. However, in the conditions we rode it there just wasn’t a lot of love compared to the other boards from Burton we rode that day.  We think some could really like this but most would probably be happier with the Flight Attendant.

 
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