The 2017 Yes Standard has much more of an all mountain/all conditions appeal to it this year and is now a lot like what the 2016 Yes Optimistic use to be. The biggest change is the camber profile went from mostly camber (modern camber) to hybrid camber (camrock). That combined with the slam back inserts ( 1 x 2 set 1.5″ back) makes it a great take on a modern all mountain board.
Conditions: Really good Sierra snow with ony a few hard patches.
Riders: James, Peter, Jimbo
Boots: Burton Almighty, Burton SLX, Nike Lunarendore
Bindings: Union Force
Set Up: Centered 23″ wide 15 front -15 back
Approximate Weight: Felt normal bordering on light.
Flex: The flex has come a long way since the old GST days and the new SWS model is softer and it doesn’t feel like a 4.5 out of 5. It feels more like a 3 and it can butter now. Even the tip/tail butter easier than they use to. It’s still not like the Jackpot but it sure does butter easier than it use to.
On Snow Feel: Not as catchy as it use to be after the transition from mostly camber to hybrid rocker. It’s got a great stable feel to it and its got a camber feel underfoot that doesn’t catch. It’s a fun board to turn, ride fast, hit the pipe and get air with.
Edge Hold: The 2017 Yes Standard grips well but it doesn’t grip like the Under Bite or Middle Bite tech. Still it’s got enough to ride in harder snow as long as you don’t fully commit in harder snow.
Turn Initiation: Super quick edge to edge and it will have no problem snapping around in any tight spot. It’s fun on all radius turns and it really fit our feet well. Well not Jimbo’s but he would love the mid/wide 156w.
Skidded Turns: Way easier than last year and you can loose a little control and skid your way out. It’s now intermediate friendly where before it was mostly for advanced riders.
Carving: Really fun to carve. It’s not a specialist but for an all mountain board it can get you off. You can really lay it out.
Speed: Good mountain speed and we had no problem with a strong straight line.
Uneven Terrain: So the Yes Standard has a much more forgiving way about messy resort snow and it can really turn quick through bumps. Also if you have to deal with chunder or hammer over the mess instead of weave around it the Standard can do that too. Pair this with a good shock absorbent binding and it’s going to be pretty good on the joints.
Powder: So Yes says this board is centered but if your stance width matches the reference stance you can get back a lot with the Slam Back inserts.. That combined with the tail that has less volume than the nose after the effective edge you get some pretty good directional float. On groomers it acts like a twin on edge but in powder this floats more like a directional board. I haven’t ridden the Standard in powder but did with the Yes Optimistic 2015 and it had a really easy float. The Optimistic 2016 and Standard 2017 have the same directional volume twin shape and same camber profile so I can vouch for the Standard. The only issue here is the Slam back inserts require a full size disc binding. I’d love to see the Standard have 5 x 2 inserts per binding centered and then 2 x 2 set back instead of 1 x 2 set back. That way there are more options for different types of discs on different types of bindings.
Switch: So even though the tail has less volume it doesn’t until after the effective edge so it’s a twin between the feet. It’s only a touch weird buttering on the tail compared to the nose but most will really enjoy this board when the stance is centered on the 5 x 2 per binding inserts.
Jibbing: Not really a jibber but it’s doable.
Pipe: The Yes Standard is a great Pipe board and I can’t wait to get more time in this pipe when we get this board for the season.
Jumps: Really strong pop on the mountain as well as a good board to hit kickers with.
So all in all the Yes Standard continued on where the 2016 Optimistic left off and even though it has a moderately stiffer flex it’s a really fun quick turning all mountain ride.
2016 Yes Standard Review
The Yes Standard is updated for 2016 and has some changes that make it less friendly for less advanced riders but make it more friendly for the strong expert rider.
The 2016 Yes Standard Snowboard Review
The 2016 Yes Standard has a few changes to the ride. that make it a little different than the 2015. Here are the differences:
- The stance this year is centered where last year it had a -10mm set back. Well it’s kind of centered. The sixth insert in each set is set back further than the rest so if your reference stance matches the corresponding sizes reference stance you can still get some set back going on like an all mountain board. For example if you get the 156 and have a 23″ wide stance then the set back inserts will work for you.
- The board is made from SWS in Dubai instead of GST in Austria. GST closed down. It’s a different feel and has a little more dynamic/snappy ride than before.
- The board has more camber and only a little bit of early rise rocker in the tip/tail. It’s almost all camber now and will look like a camber board unless you look closely. Last year it already had more camber than many of the YES boards and this year it seems like it has even more camber than before.
So the changes that made to the Standard this year give it more of an aggressive all mountain freestyle flavor this year than before. You could easily call it aggressive all mountain or aggressive all mountain freestyle.
Conditions: Hard snow in the morning going to medium/good/soft mid day.
Boots: Burton Fiend LTD
Bindings: Burton Diode
Set Up: Centered 15 front -15 back 23″ wide.
Approximate Weight: Feels on the light side of normal
On Snow Feel: Very aggressive and all about bombing the hill regular or switch. It’s not for the kind of rider that wants a forgiving easy board to skid your turns.
Powder: The extra camber (almost all camber) and centered stance detract from it’s float from last year. It’s still not bad for a mostly camber mostly twin ride but it’s more for the expert rider use to camber than those use to easy floating hybrid shapes. If your stance corresponds to the set back inserts then you can get a little more directional float.
Turn Initiation and Carving: Same kind of turn initiation as before but just a little more technical and expert oriented than before. Not for those that like to skid their turns. It’s for those that know how to turn correctly all the time. If you know how to turn it’s quick. It’s for those that love to carve switch and regular and it does it very well. It’s not as good as those long freeride super carvers but it’s about as good as a twin can get.
Speed: It’s a pretty fast board and likes to bomb for sure.
Uneven Terrain: Not bad here for such a stiff flex.
Edge Hold: Nice solid grip that doesn’t wash easily when it get’s hard. It’s not an ice specialist but good in the conditions most find acceptable.
Flex: Pretty stiff but still lively and dynamic. If you are a strong rider then you will like this. It takes some work to butter.
Switch: The tip and tail have different shapes but the contact with the snow is a twin so other than buttering it’s practically perfect switch. If you get this board it’s meant to be ridden switch a lot so don’t buy it if you are a directional rider.
Jibbing: Not a jib board and I wouldn’t like to do anything other than a forgiving easy box.
Pipe: It’s just the kind of pipe board a really accomplished rider will like but it’s not a forgiving easy ride for those that aren’t that strong. I actually prefered the Yes Optimistic because it’s a little more forgiving and I’m not a standout pipe rider. However if you are a strong technical pipe rider you will prefer the extra pop from the standard that will help you boost more.
Jumps: Really solid pop and great for those who like to get big air.
So all in all the 16 Standard isn’t as versatile as the 15 Standard but still can make a really strong technical aggressive all mountain freestyle rider happy.
2015 Yes Standard Snowboard Review
The Yes Standard is one of those boards that is aggressive harder charging ride but still doesn’t quite have the consequence that camber does. it’s a ride that allows you to get a camber feel that allows you to go big with less consequence and floats better in powder.
We thought this had a centered stance during the demo’s but we were wrong. It’s got a -10mm set back. That makes it more aggressive all mountain if you can get a little more set back and directional.
Riders: James, Peter, Jimbo, Mike
Boots: Burton Imperial, Burton Hail, Burton SLX, Nike Lunarendor
Bindings: Burton Diode, Flux SF, Union Factory, Salomon Defender
Set Up: Centered 23″ wide 15 front -15 back
Approximate Weight: Feels normal
On Snow Feel: Stable to even semi catchy. It’s got one of those types of rides that keeps it’s stable aggressive personality in all types of conditions and never changes on you. I think that is what I like about Yes and their sister companies with their hybrid camber tech.
Turn Initiation: It’s not for the kind of rider that isn’t good at turning but for those that are it’s quick and snappy edge to edge. Short to wide radius turns are fun and have a nice spring out of them.
Flex: Feels pretty medium/stiff bordering on stiff. Kind of almost there with the Yes Pick Your Line. It’s not as hard to butter as you would think but you do have to put a little more strength into it.
Edge Hold: I thought it should have a mellow magnetraction thing that many Yes boards use to have but it’s not that necessary as I thought it would be. The Standard grips in .
Powder: Would of loved to see -15mm or even -20mm set back instead of a -10mm set back but it’s not been tested in powder by us. Hopefully I will ride this board more in the winter and find out how well if floats or doesn’t float. It seems like it can float well but I’m skeptical with the minimal mellow rocker and the only -10mm set back. I think the extra volume in the nose will help though but I’m not sure how much. It seems like one of those boards that’s better than camber for sure but more for the rider that knows how to plane well, keep their speed and really own a powder day even with a camber board. If you are that kind of rider the extra tech will make it easy.
Carving: Very fun to carve and this mostly camber board really makes for good lay it out springy carving turns.
Speed: This board is very damp and stable at speed. It feels damp and shock absorbent as you pick up speed. It doesn’t feel like it’s super stiff like boards of old but instead it feels like there is a rubbery bit of insulation. It’s not enough to take away from feel of the board but just enough to make it feel damp without not being dead
Uneven Terrain: The board turns quickly through moguls and makes for better ride than you would think in uneven terrain. It also doesn’t punish you in inconsistent end of the day snow like some stiff boards do.
Switch: I really wasn’t buying into the directional volume twin thing at first but after riding switch with a centered stance it felt almost the same. I kept thinking I would feel the tail act differently than the nose but it doesn’t on groomers and I ended up riding switch a lot.
Jumps: It pops really well on snow for an ollie and it also can launch off kickers of any size. It’s also not super unforgiving on small to mid jumps either. The mellow rocker in the tip/tail gives it just enough to make it forgiving on semi-awkward landings.
Jibbing: No thank you. I’d slide across a wide box but I’d get bucked if I went any further than that.
Pipe: Man this is a fun pipe board for less accomplished riders like me but also strong pipe riders as well. It holds an edge well enough but also drives well from wall to wall.
So all in all my crew and I had a great time with this ride and I think every one of us would like to have this board in our quiver.