Vans has been around for a long time and has a reputation for not packing out much and lasting for ever. This boot is a testimate to all their knowledge and understanding of Snowboarding. The Veil has a unique modern look and rides that way as well. The biggest issue with the Veil is the very soft toe that lives in 2003. This can really suck if you ride with over the toe straps because the boot just collapses, makes you crank it down more and cause presure on your toes. It’s a little better than some of the other vans models but over time we see this collapse. For 2012 the boot stiffened up a bit in the toe area and it looks like it will hold up to a toe strap longer so this is the call over the previous models. All in all the Veil is a good boa boot that could be a great if they work on the toe.