|Overall Rating||Liked it!|
|Riding Style||All Mountain|
|Riding Level||Beginner - Expert|
|Fits Boot size (US)||8-10, 10-12|
|Manufactured in||USA by Mervin|
|Camber Profile||Hybrid Rocker|
|Stance||Setback over 20mm|
|Approx. Weight||Feels Heavy|
|On Snow Feel|
Lib Tech Lando Phoenix 2018 - 2010 Review by The Good Ride
The Lib Tech Lando Phoenix 2018 went to HP construction (Horsepower) and it’s been a while since we have been on it. It still has the same camber profile and specs as before. This is Grant’s 157w version and we hope to get a more in depth review up soon.
The Lib Tech Lando Phoenix and the Lib Tech Terrain Wrecker are two of Lib’s only boards that really fit our average guy description of a true all mountain/one board quiver type of ride. They both are boards you can center up and ride like a mountain freestyle board when there is now powder but both can set back a good bit on board when there is for more directional float to make it easy on the back leg. If you like a little stiffer more bomby version then go Lando and if you like a more playful buttery version with more edge hold then go with the Terrain Wrecker. Now there is also the T.Rice Gold Member and Climax but they are even more aggressive that favor a straight line over everything but also are more mid/wide focused.
So even though it has a 1″ set back on side cut at a 22” stance width there is only 4” set back on board. That’s not that bad but at such a big set back on side cut you would think there might be more on board. Still we felt it has pretty good direcitonal float when set all the way back in powder.
Lib Tech Lando Phoenix Past Reviews
2016-2014 Lib Tech Lando Phoenix Review
The Lib Tech Lando Phoenix is basically the old C2 BTX Jamie Lynn Phoenix but with a little more set back. Not much has changed with this board the last few years and it would be nice to see something new added like XC2 BTX. The Lando Use to be a favorite for a few years and is still a good board but during this time of no change so many other boards have improved to the point where the Lando Phoenix got passed up.
Just so you know with all snowboard companies that use wood cores not all bends will be created equal. This isn’t unique to Lib-Tech and happens with every board in the industry. It happens more so with hybrid rocker shapes. For example you can see the bend in my board but here is the same board from another rider.
Size: 160 and 157
Conditions: Practically perfect soft groomed snow with some left over powder in the trees. A few days there was harder to borderline icy snow with some areas that have scraped/pushed around light snow. Another day we had about 1′ of left over thick sierra snow.
So not much has changed in the ride of the 2015 Lib Tech Lando Phoenix but I got to try the 157 and have to say it’s a pretty different board from the 160. I think I prefer that size best. It’s quicker edge to edge, more forgiving and more playful.
Riders: James, Peter and Jimbo
Bindings: Flux SF45, Burton Cartel, Burton Diode,
Boots: Burton SLX, Burton Ion, Nike Kaiju
Set Up: Set Back a little bit, about 23″ wide, 15 front -9 back. Another day we centered up the stance.
Approximate Weight: 157 was 6.6lbs
The Lib Tech Mark Landvik Phoenix fit’s more of that traditional All Mountain rider that likes a more centered approach to the mountain on groomer days but then sets it back on a deep powder day. You like wide radius turns, bombing steep groomers, and a borderline excellent float in powder but still like a board to be forgiving. If you are that type of All Mountain rider you will be very happy with this board. The Lando use to come in a 154, 160 and 157 Mid/Wide only. Now it comes in a 154, 157, 157m/w and 160 so it’s a little better than previous years in terms of fit. We’d still like to see a size 160 wide though. This is a good one board quiver for those all mountain riders that often have to ride groomers but live for powder.
On Snow Feel: It’s got a pretty semi-stable bordering on loose feel between the feet very similar to the old C2 BTX Lynn Phoenix but the extra set back and risers change up the ride just a little bit. It feels more directional. It’s for those that like to have a 1 board quiver to have easy directional float in deep powder but also be a great mostly directional all mountain board. In softer snow it’s semi-stable between the feet and its pretty consequence free. One footing and flat basing is fine in softer snow but in harder snow it gets a little too loose for our taste. It has to always be on edge and we’d love to see this change from C2 BTX to XC2 BTX as the extra camber would stabilize the ride more like it did the TRS. That would make this even better and complete the ride.
Powder: The Lando is really good in powder. The massive 1 inch (25 mm) setback is more than many dedicated powder boards. It doesn’t have a taper but many like to have double ender feel in powder but still like a big set back for easier float. The built in risers add to the powder performance because it makes the turn initiation quicker in tight spots than the Jamie Lynn boards. It’s not the fastest board we have ridden but it’s good in tight spots It really powers through thick deep snow which is hard to do. Light fluffy snow can be ridden on a camber twin but the thicker stuff requires a floaty board. Also the MTX side cut is very mellow (.5 MTX) so it doesn’t grab or get awkward in Powder or softer snow. If you want a more surfy tapered Lando then try the Brando by Lando. Both are excellent in powder but this has an entirely different feel and I’d rather be on the brando when it gets scary deep over the Lando but it’s no slouch by any means in dep powder.
Turn Initiation and Carving– The Lando’s little risers at each mounting area make the turn initiation easier than it would be without it. The 157 is even easier than the 160 and feels really quick edge to edge. With the 160 short radius turns are a little sluggish and don’t seem to want to snap back and forth. It actually almost feels like a mid/wide to us. However Medium to wide radius turns are really fun and pretty rewarding for a hybrid rocker ride. Carving is a little bit more rewarding than you would think for hybrid rocker but it’s a little washy and requires you to squat like a gorilla to really get pressure on the camber in the tip/tail to hold it. If you ride with a surfy stance you might find this more washy. If carving is most important then you want to go with the Lynn Phoenix with C3 BTX. Still this isn’t bad at all for hybrid rocker ride.
Speed: The stiff flex, fast base and stable platform (for a hybrid rocker board) make the Lando Phoenix a great board to bomb. It doesn’t have that loose feeling between the feet that most hybrid rocker boards give you when flat basing at high speeds. You sacrafice a little pop for this but in our opinion it’s totally worth it. The speed award goes to the Jamie Lynn C3 Camber due to it’s stabiltiy between the feet but the Lando is still surprisingly stable and is closer to the C3 Lynn than you would think.
Uneven Snow– It holds up well and with a good pair of shock absorbent bindings you can deal with most end of the day resort snow. The sluggish feel edge to edge feel is a bit of a problem negotiating bumps but when you hit them it’s not going to be completely painful. It’s a first class chunder buster but not really a bumpy end of the day mogul specialist.
Edge Hold: We liked the mellow MTX side cut better for all conditions ridign. It didn’t have that ultra grippy feel so it rode in softer snow much better than the more aggressive MTX side cut’s do. Still it gripped harder snow for a carve where other boards could only wash out or slide around but it didn’t feel overly grippy. This is the kind of edge hold that almost anyone will like. It’s not an icy condition specialist but it gives sufficient grip in most conditions you will go out on.
Flex: This is a Medium/Stiff flex so at least when it is new you aren’t going to get much butterability out of it. We found the Lando Phoenix would not let you butter much past the rocker between the feet without a lot of effort which is similar to the T.Rice. There is a little more stiff of a flex due to the built in risers with the Lando. As the board breaks in and goes more towards a medium flex it will be a little easier to butter but let’s face it this won’t satisfy someone who likes to butter a lot.
Switch: The Lando is a directional twin on paper but it feels much more like a twinish board due to the risers, different shaped nose/tail and massive set back stance. Because the Risers are set back they have even a more pronounced feel than the Darker Series when it comes to riding switch. It’s very doable but it’s definitely different.
Jibbing– Not so good here but what do you expect for a board of this flex, size and shape.
Pipe: It drives you from wall to wall with ease and is rather forgiving but I’d personally like something with a deeper side cut. Still a lot of riders might like this board in the pipe.
Jumps: This is a pretty fun jump board but it’s not a lap the jump park all day kind of board. The set back and the directional flex created by the risers makes it more directional when jumping. There is medium spring but you sacrifice some pop for stability between the feet.
We like this board a lot but with the evolution of XC2 BTX and the stability it brings would really complete the ride of the Lando and keep it current.
A Quick Look at the 2014 Lib Tech Lando Phoenix- Same Great board as the 2013 but with more sizes and a better graphic. The Because the Jamie Lynn Phoenix went to an aggressive C3 BTX camber profile it made the Lando C2 Power BTX a much better fit for a wider variety of all mountain riders. The Lynn is more of a technical carving master but the Lando is more forgiving and easier in powder than the Lynn. It’s all personal choice and we love both boards but this just gives you a little more of a diverse ride than the Lynn. Before the Lynn and Lando were very similar but now days they are very different due to the contrasting camber profiles.
A Quick Look at the 2013 Mark Landvik Phoenix Series
A Quick Look at the 2012 Mark Landvik Phoenix Series
Lib Tech Lando Phoenix Specs
Lib Tech Lando Phoenix Images
Lib Tech Company Information
Lib Tech Lando Phoenix User Reviews
Lando 160, 2014-2015
Tested it for 2-3 days mainly in powder. Best powder/all mountain board I ever had, floats so good in powder and so stable at speed. Actually a bit scared how fast it is. On firm snow, also pretty good. It has amazingly quick response from edge to edge: It's the combination of the riser pads and the rocker between your feet that gives you this loose feeling for a split of a second when turning, and then bites the slope again. Very tricky when riding it with one foot on, the rocker feels a lot. I would still prefer my old TRS for days in the fun park. LibTech forever...amazing boards!
This board is a pure delight. Awesome agressive all mountain board. It float very well in powder and lock in the ice. Very poppy, easy edge to edge and not to bad in uneven terrain. Not has stable then a regular camber when going straight but acceptable. This board was my first rocker so I struggle a bit the first descends but get use to it really fast. Compare to my salomon special 2 it turns on a dime. Really fun to ride in trees with this board.
Cons: the base is not the fastest out there, my Salomon special 2 was way faster then this board, but on the other side it is easy the maintain.
2011 Lando review
Been riding the 2011 157W version (the one with the cobras) since Feb 2011 - ridden in Canada, Australia and Japan in early season, epic pow days and spring conditions (plus everything in-between). First with very average K2 Cinch CTS bindings and nowadays with Ride El Hefe bindings. The bindings make all the difference and turn this board into something amazing.
This board just wants to keep bombing down the mountain over anything in the way. You just have to be strong and calm enough to direct it and it does so much of the work for you! Best ridden when there is sufficient cover to do long and fast runs where you just launch yourself at everything, not incredibly fun and playful at lower speeds but still a good time.
I love this board but I am grateful to have a softer and more playful board in my quiver for when the runs are shorter and / or more crowded. I like riding the Lando on longer more open areas where I can turn the tap on to full and revel in its ability to keep me above everything when I stand on the tail and point it straight. You just want to charge when you ride it as it gives you so much confidence.
First of all a big all mountain high five to James at the good ride who helped me decide on this board among many others. I recently was a proud and happy owner of a 2012 lib tech banana magic but it delaminated on me. I had my pick of most lib tech and gnu boards. I wanted a board that was quick to turn, good in powder, and able to bomb groomers. I ride a lot through the trees in search of the fluffy stuff. This board did exactly as advertised. edge to edge was quick and easy, float was sweet and I felt like I was bouncing from turn to turn, and it carved really well. it didn't have the same insane bite that the b.magic and t.rice (demo'd this one) had but I liked that. it still held an edge with every type of turn I threw at it. the stability at speed is going to take some getting used to... I am used to the enhanced btx of the magic. I, for some reason did not find the magic unstable at speeds but I think I will like this more once I get used to it. what impressed/surprised me was the pop on this board. I don't know if I was too stoked or what but this thing flew off natural hits and lips. my buddy even commented on the height I was getting. I felt like the 1' set back allowed me to load the tail more for take off. I also enjoyed the flex on this board. it was a little more forgiving than the magic which was nice. cant wait to get out on this bad boy again and for a waist deep day. graphics are sick (I hated the graphics of the previous few lando boards) and I am a lib tech'er for life! Thanks again James. In Mervin, Lando, and the goodride I trust!