The 2018 Yes Standard had a major overhaul this year. It adopted the Middle Bite tech from the Yes Jackpot, got a blunt nose/tail, changed the waist width sizing and considerably narrowed the reference stance. It’s still a great board but just not great for riders of all boot sizes this year. Also, the limited stance width options might be tough for riders who prefer a wider stance.
2018 Yes Standard Review
2018 Yes Standard vs. 2017 Yes Standard
- They added middle bite which is a pair of indentations in the side cut below the inserts. It increases edge hold and improves turn initiation for a board of a wider width underfoot.
- They kept the directional volume twin but added a bigger blunt tip/tail that not only looks good but also improves the float a little bit over the smaller nose/tail.
- They widened up the sizing across the board to accommodate size 10+ riders and got rid of the under 10 sizing for the bigger boards. For example, in 2017 there was a 156 and a 156w. Now there is just a 156 with a similar width to the 2017 156w.
- They narrowed the stance width considerably. For example, the 156 use to have a 23” reference stance and now 23.1” is a wide as you can get on the standard inserts. 5 is the reference stance now. So if you want to use the slam back inserts a 21.5” stance width is what’s required.
The first day I rode it with the gang for a few runs at the demos but then kept it for a little over a week. Over that week I rode it a bunch. I also tested it against the Jones Mountain Twin, Ultra Mountain Twin, 2017 Yes Standard, Oz Custom Woody and a few other All Mountain boards like the Yes Libre.
Conditions: Really good spring conditions almost every day and only a few hard mornings.
Riders: James, Jimbo, Matt, Peter and a friend of ours named Ren,
Boots: Burton Almighty, Adidas Tactical ADV, Burton SLX, Burton Rover, Burton AMB,
Bindings: Union Atlas, Union Superpro with team ankle straps (similar to the contact but with taller straps), Burton Genesis, Burton Genesis X,
Set Up: about 23” one day and closer to 22.75” on others. 15 front -15 back and centered.
Our Recommended Boots: Adidas Tactical ADV, Burton Imperial, Burton Ion
Our Recommended Bindings: Union Atlas, Union Force, Union Contact, Union Contact Pro, Burton Cartel, Burton Genesis, Burton Mission, Salomon Hologram, Now Pilot, Arbor Cypress,
Approximate Weight: Felt normal bordering on light.
Flex: Felt medium across the entire board and maybe bordering on the medium soft side of medium. There was a nice smooth easy flex. It feels softer than its rating on Yes’ site.
Sizing: The sweet spot on the 156 seems like it’s closer to a size 11. The 2018 156 Yes Standard was just not that fun for me and my size 9 boots compared to the 2017 model. I thought about trying the 153 but the max stance width is 22.1 so I couldn’t even get to my minimum 22.5″ stance width for that board. Also the stance width is pretty narrow this year at a 21.5″ reference stance. It would be fine if they had 6×2 centered inserts per binding but at 5×2 it minimizes the max stance width too much. It’s just not for everyone anymore like it was last year.
On Snow Feel: Feels like the wide version of the Standard I use to own. Big, stable and sluggish but still a great board for bigger feet. Super easy to one foot and flat base. It’s got this kind of consistency in every condition from hard snow to powder that you can really fall in love with. It takes a few days of riding in varying conditions to really appreciate.
Edge Hold: The edge hold of the 2018 Yes Standard has greatly improved and it can handle hard snow no problem. It can even do pretty well in ice if you have to ride it.
Turn Initiation: The 2018 Yes Standard is super slow compared to the 2017 Yes Standard I owned. It also made the Jones Mountain Twin and Ultra Mountain Twin feel like a fast turner and that’s not a fast turning board. It’s not a board I’d take into the trees or ride in tight spots. Jimbo and Zobel, with their size 11’s, were fine with the turn initiation though. The 2018 Yes Standard is made for them and therefore the turn initiation for their 11 boots is med/fast. Toe drag sucks for big boot riders and that was one of the goals this year for the Yes Standard so I get that. However slow turn initiation for smaller boot riders, although not as bad as toe/heel drag, sucks a lot too. I constantly spend my time trying to match the right waist width to the right boot size so I’d like to see more waist widths for such a great board. The 2018 156 seems like it’s also slower than the 2017 156w by a little bit as well.
Turning Experience: Once it’s over on edge turning this board is pretty fun and the side cut seems to like all kinds of turning radius’. However, I still personally felt out of my element with the wider waist compared to the 2017 model. If your boots match the width it’s a great board to turn.
Carving: We liked the improved edge hold with Middle Bite and it helps the board carve better in harder conditions. There isn’t a ton of camber underfoot but there is enough to give you some spring out of the turn. A little bit more camber in the profile would make this more fun.
Skidded Turns: The rocker in the tip/tail makes the Yes Standard very easy to skid out if you get off your game. It can really handle riders of any level. Even if you are a beginner who is committed to the sport you could go with this.
Speed: It’s no bomber but it’s got enough to handle big, steep wide open groomers and then slow down and butter around when it gets flat.
Uneven Terrain: If your boots fit the mid/wide sizing then you will be able to weave in and out of bumps really well. For me this would not be fun to ride on a messy bumpy day.
Powder: The set back on board 4.5″ is the same as it was before but just with a more narrow stance. The blunted tip/tail is great for a little extra float than the 2017 model. The lower volume nose allows the tail to sink a little better and combined with those slam back inserts the board transforms from a directional twin to a board that feels more like a directional freeride board when you get into the deep stuff. The YES Standard does this better than most all mountain boards because of this setback and the reduced volume in the tail. Just don’t get this if you have mini-disc bindings because then you can’t use the slam back inserts.
Buttering: Such a great board for buttering. The rocker in the tip/tail makes it really easy. It doesn’t have that snap back when it’s bent like many good hybrid rocker boards but it’s still a great butter board.
Switch: So you think it would be noticeable with the different shaped nose/tail but it’s barely noticeable with the Yes Standard riding fakie. It’s a twin on side cut.
Jumps: Pretty good pop here. Nothing out of the ordinary but it can ollie rather well. It’s also a great board for lapping the kicker line and you can take off or land either way. So it’s great from a natural feature on the mountain to a medium-ish to a big kicker in the park.
Jibbing: The Yes Standard is a better jibber than you would think. It’s not perfect but it’s got some strong jib personality.
Pipe: The improved edge hold will make this a great pipe board. It’s a board you can lap the park with the Yes Standard all day.
So overall we love the blunt tip/tail, the addition of middle bite tech and feel it’s still a great board. It’s now just for size 10+ riders in the bigger sizes that prefer a narrower stance. In the smaller sizes, it works well with under size 10 boots but again the stance width options are limited and on the narrow side. If it has the sizing range and reference stance of the YES Typo and Yes Libre line then this would have been amazing for riders of all sizes but for this year it’s a bit more specialized. This is a shame too because all mountain boards, like The Yes Standard, are bought more than any other model so it would be great to see a size to match most riders specs and stance width.
The 2017 Yes Standard Snowboard Review
The 2017 Yes Standard has much more of an all mountain/all conditions appeal to it this year and is now a lot like what the 2016 Yes Optimistic use to be. The biggest change is the camber profile went from mostly camber (modern camber) to hybrid camber (camrock). That combined with the slam back inserts ( 1 x 2 set 1.5″ back) makes it a great take on a modern all mountain board.
Size: 158 and 156
Conditions: Really good Sierra snow with ony a few hard patches.
Riders: James, Matt,, Peter, Jimbo and many others
Boots: Burton Almighty, Burton SLX, Nike Lunarendore
Bindings: Union Force
Set Up: Centered 23″ wide 15 front -15 back
Approximate Weight: Felt normal bordering on light.
Flex: The flex has come a long way since the old GST days and the new SWS model is softer and it doesn’t feel like a 4.5 out of 5. It feels more like a 3 and it can butter now. Even the tip/tail butter easier than they use to. It’s still not like the Jackpot but it sure does butter easier than it use to.
On Snow Feel: Not as catchy as it use to be after the transition from mostly camber to hybrid rocker. It’s got a great stable feel to it and its got a camber feel underfoot that doesn’t catch. It’s a fun board to turn, ride fast, hit the pipe and get air with.
Edge Hold: The 2017 Yes Standard grips well but it doesn’t grip like the Under Bite or Middle Bite tech. Still it’s got enough to ride in harder snow as long as you don’t fully commit in harder snow.
Turn Initiation: Super quick edge to edge and it will have no problem snapping around in any tight spot. It’s fun on all radius turns and it really fit our feet well. Well not Jimbo’s but he would love the mid/wide 156w.
Skidded Turns: Way easier than last year and you can loose a little control and skid your way out. It’s now intermediate friendly where before it was mostly for advanced riders.
Carving: Really fun to carve. It’s not a specialist but for an all mountain board it can get you off. You can really lay it out.
Speed: Good mountain speed and we had no problem with a strong straight line.
Uneven Terrain: So the Yes Standard has a much more forgiving way about messy resort snow and it can really turn quick through bumps. Also if you have to deal with chunder or hammer over the mess instead of weave around it the Standard can do that too. Pair this with a good shock absorbent binding and it’s going to be pretty good on the joints.
Powder: So Yes says this board is centered but if your stance width matches the reference stance you can get back a lot with the Slam Back inserts. You can get almost 4.5″ back on board if you can use the slam back inserts at a 23″ stance width on the 156. With the 158 it’s 23.5 and with the 154 it’s 22.5″ and so on. That’s really far back for an all mountain board. If you are looking for a one board quiver this is why we recommend boards like this because they can double as a set back surfy freeride board when set all the way back and give you a taste of that directional freeride feel. That combined with the tail that has less volume than the nose after the effective edge you get some pretty good directional float. On groomers it acts like a twin on edge but in powder this floats more like a directional board. I haven’t ridden the Standard in powder but did with the Yes Optimistic 2015 and it had a really easy float. The Optimistic 2016 and Standard 2017 have the same directional volume twin shape and same camber profile so I can vouch for the Standard. The only issue here is the Slam back inserts require a full size disc binding. A mini disc won’t work. I’d love to see the Standard have 5 x 2 inserts per binding centered and then 2 x 2 set back instead of 1 x 2 set back. That way there are more options for different types of discs on different types of bindings.
Switch: So even though the tail has less volume it doesn’t until after the effective edge so it’s a twin between the feet. It’s only a touch weird buttering on the tail compared to the nose but most will really enjoy this board when the stance is centered on the 5 x 2 per binding inserts.
Jibbing: Not really a jibber but it’s doable.
Pipe: The Yes Standard is a great Pipe board and I can’t wait to get more time in this pipe when we get this board for the season.
Jumps: Really strong pop on the mountain as well as a good board to hit kickers with.
So all in all the Yes Standard continued on where the 2016 Optimistic left off and even though it has a moderately stiffer flex it’s a really fun quick turning all mountain ride.
2016 Yes Standard Review
The Yes Standard is updated for 2016 and has some changes that make it less friendly for less advanced riders but make it more friendly for the strong expert rider.
The 2016 Yes Standard Snowboard Review
The 2016 Yes Standard has a few changes to the ride. that make it a little different than the 2015. Here are the differences:
- The stance this year is centered where last year it had a -10mm set back. Well it’s kind of centered. The sixth insert in each set is set back further than the rest so if your reference stance matches the corresponding sizes reference stance you can still get some set back going on like an all mountain board. For example if you get the 156 and have a 23″ wide stance then the set back inserts will work for you.
- The board is made from SWS in Dubai instead of GST in Austria. GST closed down. It’s a different feel and has a little more dynamic/snappy ride than before.
- The board has more camber and only a little bit of early rise rocker in the tip/tail. It’s almost all camber now and will look like a camber board unless you look closely. Last year it already had more camber than many of the YES boards and this year it seems like it has even more camber than before.
So the changes that made to the Standard this year give it more of an aggressive all mountain freestyle flavor this year than before. You could easily call it aggressive all mountain or aggressive all mountain freestyle.
Conditions: Hard snow in the morning going to medium/good/soft mid day.
Boots: Burton Fiend LTD
Bindings: Burton Diode
Set Up: Centered 15 front -15 back 23″ wide.
Approximate Weight: Feels on the light side of normal
On Snow Feel: Very aggressive and all about bombing the hill regular or switch. It’s not for the kind of rider that wants a forgiving easy board to skid your turns.
Powder: The extra camber (almost all camber) and centered stance detract from it’s float from last year. It’s still not bad for a mostly camber mostly twin ride but it’s more for the expert rider use to camber than those use to easy floating hybrid shapes. If your stance corresponds to the set back inserts then you can get a little more directional float.
Turn Initiation and Carving: Same kind of turn initiation as before but just a little more technical and expert oriented than before. Not for those that like to skid their turns. It’s for those that know how to turn correctly all the time. If you know how to turn it’s quick. It’s for those that love to carve switch and regular and it does it very well. It’s not as good as those long freeride super carvers but it’s about as good as a twin can get.
Speed: It’s a pretty fast board and likes to bomb for sure.
Uneven Terrain: Not bad here for such a stiff flex.
Edge Hold: Nice solid grip that doesn’t wash easily when it get’s hard. It’s not an ice specialist but good in the conditions most find acceptable.
Flex: Pretty stiff but still lively and dynamic. If you are a strong rider then you will like this. It takes some work to butter.
Switch: The tip and tail have different shapes but the contact with the snow is a twin so other than buttering it’s practically perfect switch. If you get this board it’s meant to be ridden switch a lot so don’t buy it if you are a directional rider.
Jibbing: Not a jib board and I wouldn’t like to do anything other than a forgiving easy box.
Pipe: It’s just the kind of pipe board a really accomplished rider will like but it’s not a forgiving easy ride for those that aren’t that strong. I actually prefered the Yes Optimistic because it’s a little more forgiving and I’m not a standout pipe rider. However if you are a strong technical pipe rider you will prefer the extra pop from the standard that will help you boost more.
Jumps: Really solid pop and great for those who like to get big air.
So all in all the 16 Standard isn’t as versatile as the 15 Standard but still can make a really strong technical aggressive all mountain freestyle rider happy.
2015 Yes Standard Snowboard Review
The Yes Standard is one of those boards that is aggressive harder charging ride but still doesn’t quite have the consequence that camber does. it’s a ride that allows you to get a camber feel that allows you to go big with less consequence and floats better in powder.
We thought this had a centered stance during the demo’s but we were wrong. It’s got a -10mm set back. That makes it more aggressive all mountain if you can get a little more set back and directional.
Riders: James, Peter, Jimbo, Mike
Boots: Burton Imperial, Burton Hail, Burton SLX, Nike Lunarendor
Bindings: Burton Diode, Flux SF, Union Factory, Salomon Defender
Set Up: Centered 23″ wide 15 front -15 back
Approximate Weight: Feels normal
On Snow Feel: Stable to even semi catchy. It’s got one of those types of rides that keeps it’s stable aggressive personality in all types of conditions and never changes on you. I think that is what I like about Yes and their sister companies with their hybrid camber tech.
Turn Initiation: It’s not for the kind of rider that isn’t good at turning but for those that are it’s quick and snappy edge to edge. Short to wide radius turns are fun and have a nice spring out of them.
Flex: Feels pretty medium/stiff bordering on stiff. Kind of almost there with the Yes Pick Your Line. It’s not as hard to butter as you would think but you do have to put a little more strength into it.
Edge Hold: I thought it should have a mellow magnetraction thing that many Yes boards use to have but it’s not that necessary as I thought it would be. The Standard grips in .
Powder: Would of loved to see -15mm or even -20mm set back instead of a -10mm set back but it’s not been tested in powder by us. Hopefully I will ride this board more in the winter and find out how well if floats or doesn’t float. It seems like it can float well but I’m skeptical with the minimal mellow rocker and the only -10mm set back. I think the extra volume in the nose will help though but I’m not sure how much. It seems like one of those boards that’s better than camber for sure but more for the rider that knows how to plane well, keep their speed and really own a powder day even with a camber board. If you are that kind of rider the extra tech will make it easy.
Carving: Very fun to carve and this mostly camber board really makes for good lay it out springy carving turns.
Speed: This board is very damp and stable at speed. It feels damp and shock absorbent as you pick up speed. It doesn’t feel like it’s super stiff like boards of old but instead it feels like there is a rubbery bit of insulation. It’s not enough to take away from feel of the board but just enough to make it feel damp without not being dead
Uneven Terrain: The board turns quickly through moguls and makes for better ride than you would think in uneven terrain. It also doesn’t punish you in inconsistent end of the day snow like some stiff boards do.
Switch: I really wasn’t buying into the directional volume twin thing at first but after riding switch with a centered stance it felt almost the same. I kept thinking I would feel the tail act differently than the nose but it doesn’t on groomers and I ended up riding switch a lot.
Jumps: It pops really well on snow for an ollie and it also can launch off kickers of any size. It’s also not super unforgiving on small to mid jumps either. The mellow rocker in the tip/tail gives it just enough to make it forgiving on semi-awkward landings.
Jibbing: No thank you. I’d slide across a wide box but I’d get bucked if I went any further than that.
Pipe: Man this is a fun pipe board for less accomplished riders like me but also strong pipe riders as well. It holds an edge well enough but also drives well from wall to wall.
So all in all my crew and I had a great time with this ride and I think every one of us would like to have this board in our quiver.