The Jones Flagship is for someone that likes a stable fast board for powder and bombing or carving up morning groomers. The 2017 Jones Flagship is now made at SWS instead of GST. The SWS Jones has a more forgiving ride in uneven snow and what they call Spoon Tech which is a lifted side to help it float/displace powder.
2017 Jones Flagship Review
Riders: James, Peter, Jimbo
Boots: Burton Almighty, Adidas Tactical ADV, Burton SLX,
Bindings: Burton Cartel,
Set Up: Set back a bit 15 front -3 back approximately 23″ wide.
Approximate Weight: Felt normal
Flex: The flex from the SWS factory is a touch more mellow. It feels a bit softer and has an easier flex to it. The Old Flagship had much more of a stiff wood feel to it where this has a little more of a rubber feel to it which is a great improvement. We already felt it was stiff enough so the change up is very welcome.
On Snow Feel: The feel underfoot is the same stable feel as the GST models from 2016 and below.
Edge Hold: Same great mellow mag edge hold that doesn’t shine on ice but handles soft snow to hard snow very well. It’s a great board for those that know they are going to ride on all but the shittiest days out there.
Turn Initiation: Same quick turn initiation as the 16 and below Jones Flagship. It’s really quick edge to edge in tight spots however when you are engaged on the edge for a longer turn the radius isn’t that tight. So it’s great with short quick turns side to side when dogging trees and then on groomers it likes bigger radius turns when on edge.
Skidded Turns: The Flagship is really easy to skid turns and it makes it a great board for not making you pay when you get off your game. It really can flick quickly from skid to skid in steep stuff.
Carving: So I was a bit concerned with the new spoon tech when it comes to a carve because we didn’t like it on the Aviator. The Aviator seemed to wash out when your really laid it over on a rail. We didn’t find this to be as much the case with the Flagship. I think it’s because it has less camber than the Aviator so you already know where the camber is. The Avaitor gives you a false sense of camber where the Flagship better sets the camber expectation level on a carve. It’s still a little more washy than the old Flagship but it felt like the carving didn’t change too much. I’d like to see them move the spoon tech up completely past the camber and only exist in the rocker section so that way it still carves like a champ and still has better powder displacement.
Speed: Even though it’s a little softer than the old Flagship it’s not noticeable when you point it. It seems like it lost a little stiffness but gained more dampening tech which we all like. It no longer feels like an early 2000’s freeride board.
Uneven Terrain: We were getting pretty tired of the old Flagship when it came to mid to late day resort snow. It was to the point that we were going to remove this from the favorites list. However the new SWS build really improved the ride in uneven snow. It’s still not an easy ride but it’s much better than before. It use to be a poor ride in the uneven shit but now it’s average. You can get through a whole day of riding without it getting too cranky. It can slam through tracked powder though like a champ and just take it but when it goes from tracked to bumpy and messy it’s not perfect but much better.
Powder: Still a champ in powder and the spoon tech is a little more subtle than they say but it does help improve the float.
Switch: Same as before. Doable but not great. Get the Explorer or Ultra Mountain Twin if you want to ride switch more.
Pipe: You know if you are ok with directional pipe riding this can work no problem.
Jumps: Nice pop off the tail and the new SWS made Jones Flagship have a little more spring off the tail. It’s a great board for directional air.
2015-2016 Jones Flagship Review
The 2015 and 2016 Jones Flagship have a very similar ride.
The 2015 Jones Flagship has the same shape, specs and overall ride except for one thing. The 2015 core is a little livelier, snappier and a slight bit more aggressive than the 2014 and similar in flex to the 2013 model. The Build quality and base of the 2015 to 2013 line is much better than the past models. There is also just a little bit more camber. Also for 2015 year the Flagship comes in women’s sizing which is better. They use to have a women’s board called the Mothership which was a women’s flagship so this makes it simple with the Flagship working for all gender and sizing.
Size:161 and 164
Conditions: Everything from bullet proof groomers to 2 to 3 feet of thick sierra snow.
Riders: James, Peter, Eli, Billy and a few others.
Boots: Burton Ion, Burton SLX, Burton Imperial, Nike Kaiju, DC Judge, Nike Lunarendor,
Bindings: Burton Diode, Flux DM, Flux SF, Now O-Drive, Union Factory, Now Drive, Now IPO
Set Up: 23 inches wide 18 front 0 back and 22 inches wide 18 front and -3 back.
The Jones Flagship 2015-2013 is the same general design but it’s made from a different manufacturer. Jones use to be Nidecker but that factory was having issues the past few years. They moved to GST out of Austria which is one of the better factories out there. As a result the construction quality of the 2013 -2015 is better and the base seems to be faster for 2014 and 2015. Also the board isn’t as stiff for 2014 and feels lighter. It even feels like it borders on being light. The 2015 feels a little stiffer but maybe the same weight or even a bit lighter. The move to GST successfully reduced most of the minor issues our readers were experiencing and customers were experiencing with production models.
On Snow Feel: There is Such a huge difference between the Rossignonl Experience Jones model and this model. The Design is very similar but the stiffness in the nose makes the board soo much fun to ride on groomers. The Experience had such a soft nose that it was very much like having a clown shoe. The Jones Flagship isn’t as much as a carvy snowboard as it is a straighline everything you see kind of board.
Powder: The Jones Flagship has an effortless float in powder and the steeper it is the better it performs. The set back on side cut is -20mm but on the board its more like -75mm. So that combined with rocker after the bindings and the set back camber makes the Jones Flagship ride bigger than it’s size and float like a dedicated powder board. You know when you are bombing on a fresh line and hit a tracked up path it doesn’t even feel like anything. It’s a chunder buster for sure. It handles high speed powder assaults better than almost any other board out there. It’s got a nice semi-surfy feel that will allow you to keep afloat in even the deepest of deep. If you need to dart between trees it handles it well in powder for a board this stiff.
Turn Initiation: For a board of this stiffness and size the turn initiation is surprisingly very good. Because of it’s stiff flex it’s more work in the rutted mogul like crud you can find on the well tracked routes back to the chair but it can turn pretty quick edge to edge. One thing that’s interesting about the Jones Flagship is it makes skidded turns pretty easy for those that are in tight steep spots. It’s also not bad at all in the trees.
Speed: We went down this run that is soo steep the Cat has to winch into a tow cable to groom it. The Jones Bombed down this steep run like we were straight lining on an intermediate groomer. The 2012 and below base is pretty fast and the board is chatter free. The 2013 and 2014 has the same damp ride but an even faster base that does an amazing job picking up speed and keeping speed in the flats. Same with the 2015. This is at the top of the speed spectrum and has a race car kind of feel. The design seems to truly match Jeremy’s riding style so much it can make you feel a bit inadequate when trying to mach down a steep run. There aren’t many people that have the ability to take this board to it’s limits.
Uneven Terrain: The Old Jones Flagships that were thick mean and stiff. They were made by Nidecker and were pretty rough after things got tracked out. The new lighter softer flexing Flagship is going to be a lot easier in bumpy uneven conditions and it’s got a lighter more forgiving ride. The 2013 was a little better but the 2014 is a little easier than the 2013. It now almost borders on good for dealing with bumps. I just found this out when I got to play around with some production models. It’s still going to be a damp chunder busting board but it’s got a more friendly all terrain ride now that borders on good. The Flagship is going to shine when it comes to morning groomers and powder runs but if you are looking for a mogul board look elsewhere. The 2015 model steps back into the 2013 realm of flex and it’s a little stiffer and more cranky.
Approximate Weight: This use to be one of the heaviest boards we have recently come across. The 2013 was a little lighter and the 2014 seems even lighter than the 2013 and it borders on being light. The 2015 feels a shade lighter as well but it’s pretty close to the 2014. It feels very easy on the foot going up the chair lift and the weight reduction really changes up the board. Normally a little weight reduction doesn’t matter but when the board was soo heavy a weight reduction does matter.
Edge Hold: This type of magnetraction makes for very solid edge hold with out changing the characteristics of the ride. In icy conditions and snowment the Jones Flagship holds an edge very well. All years hold about the same.
Flex: The Pre-GST models use to have an ultra stiff flex like the freeride boards of old. It was also heavy and unforgiving. The flex was a little better in 2013 but the 2014 borders on being Medium/Stiff and it’s mellowed out.
Carving– Really fun to carve in almost any type of condition and it’s got decent spring out of the turn. The 2015 is a little more springy but not by much when it comes to a carve. However it’s more fun to just go as fast as you can go instead of lean out and carve. If this had just a little more camber extending further towards the tail this could be an amazing carver.
Switch: The Jones Flagship is not bad switch for a board of this shape with a little taper. You can comfortably mix it up and give your back leg a break here and there but it’s no twin and it feels very different.
Jumps: Obviously this is great for natural hits but not really that good when it comes to the park. There is good snap off the tail but the newer models pop a little better than the earlier models. I’d say the 2015 has the most pop.
Pipe: The Jones Flagship will climb a pipe wall well but it’s just not built for the pipe. It’s a little too directional and long but it can work in there.
All in all year in and year out the Jones flagship is a fast aggressive and pretty forgiving board for it’s flex. If you live for going fast on morning groomers, super steep terrain on powder days and a great freeride board. No board is perfect but it has a consistent ride in every condition that never gives you a surprise.
2015 Jones Flagship
2014 Jones Flagship
A Quick Overview from Jeremy on the 2014 Jones Flagship
A Quick Look at the Jones Flagship
Jones Flagship 2012-2011 Review.
To start off with the board is different than almost any other board out there with the exception of the Rossignol Experience and the Rossignol Krypto. All three seem to have the same shape/design. The big difference between the Jones and the Rossignol versions is the camber seems more pronounced with the Rossignol where the Jones seems almost like a flat/rocker board. The same goes for the Magnetraction for the Experience and Krypto where the Jones is almost un-noticeable. Another thing is the Jones is much more stiff than the Krypto and Experience. The first thing that’s almost impossible not to notice is how heavy this board is. The 2012 seems a bit lighter but it’s still heavy. So far it might be the only flaw we have found. Riding this board gives us a tiny little port hole into the world of Jeremy. So let’s get to the breakdown.
The Jones Flagship is feels like this is really what Jeremy rides. Jones incorporated “Mellow Magnetraction” which is a barely noticeable Magnetraction like extension of the edges throughout the board. It’s nothing like Magnetraction from Lib-Tech and Gnu’s. It’s much more mellow but still does a good job holding an edge. The top sheet is a bit puzzling because it looks like un-treated wood but they soaked it with some sort of sustainable treatment. Some people like this top sheet and some hate it so it’s up to you to decide how you feel about it. Top Sheet or no you can’t deny that the Jones is one bomber of a big mountain board. The 2011 & 2012 boards are not much different. The ride, feeling and style are very similar.
If you are an accomplished freerider that likes speed, big chutes, wide open runs and carving then this will be a very fun board.