The Lib Tech Duh is an interesting late release board that has a second set of edges. It seems like they took the TRS and glued a smaller board to the bottom. The feeling was really different and all of us didn’t quite feel comfortable with the way the board rode. We all wanted to completely file down the inside edges and then try it again.
As you can see in the video we had a debate about weather this is lifted like Bataleon boards or not. I said it wasn’t the same but didn’t describe the difference correctly. The real difference is the second set of edges and the fact that the entire middle part of the base is lifted up dramatically like it’s a second board. Boards like Bataleon and others only gradually bend up some strategic points along the effective edge. The feel is completely different from TBT and other boards with parts of the effective edge lifted.
Conditions: Perfect soft but a little messy snow with only a few hard patches here and there. Also a little powder in the trees.
Riders: James, Peter Jimbo,
Boots: Burton SLX, Burton Fiend LTD, Salomon F3.0,
Bindings: Burton Cartel
Set Up: Centered 15 front -15 back 23″ wide
Approximate Weight: Felt normal to a touch on the heavy side of normal
On Snow Feel: Very interesting feel. It doesn’t feel like it’s XC2 BTX
Turn Initiation: All I can say is very weird. We all felt that the edges inside were fighting the edges on the outside and wanted to turn differently. All of us wanted the inside edges completely dulled out because we felt like they were not only catching but fighting the outside edges on a turn. I felt this on short to wide radius turns. Here is a vid showing how it works with Stephen acting like a 6’4″ Nelly Fertada….
If this was my board I would of gone straight to a shop and filed out the inside edges until they were round from tip to tail and left the outside edges the way they were. That way they wouldn’t catch or fight the turn like they did here.
Flex: Felt very similar to the TRS and felt a little bit stiffer.
Edge Hold: Amazing grippy edge hold that would own it in hard to icy conditions. Not sure how it would feel though with 2 edges at a time on the snow in really hard snow. We only had a few hard snowment like patches
Powder: Only a little bit of powder in the trees but not enough to really tell. However based on the similar camber profile to the TRS it seems like it would be good but nothing great. Kind of the same for all hybrid rocker twins like this.
Carving: When I really got it on the outside edges on a hard carve it felt fine and carved like the TRS did which is pretty fun but it was weird getting to them and often the inside edge would have a little grab fight with the outside edge before letting me get over on that edge. So yeah it can carve really well once you are there but transitioning from edge to edge on a carve wasn’t that much fun.
Speed: Like Peter said it bombs pretty well and feels pretty stable when flat basing at high speeds but on edge or I guess edges it can feel a bit uncomfortable.
Uneven Terrain: Ok in terms of how the boards flex and materials handle uneven snow but it’s a little off turning around bumps and such.
Switch: Felt pretty much the same either way.
Jumps: Good pop but I think I liked the pop of the TRS better. It’s not really a board I’d feel comfortable on a big kicker or even a medium one.
Jibbing: I think if the inside edges were filed down to completely round then this would be pretty strong here despite it’s less than ideal flex. It just wouldn’t catch and you could even keep the outer edges sharp and still have some really solid jibability.
Pipe: Took one pass through the pipe and didn’t really like the feel. Again I might like it much better with the edges completely dull.
So all in all I think this could be the start to something fun but I think the inner and outer edges need to find some harmony with one another before it evolves from here.